The victims of Atmos Energy’s negligence lingered for over 2 and 5 months, respectively.

May 16, 2008 7:10 pm US/Central
Set of Explosions Destroy 3 Homes in McKinney
http://cbs11tv.com/local/mckinney.house.explosion.2.726162.html

May 18, 2008
McKinney explosion witnesses, victims’ families criticize Atmos Energy’s response

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/051808dnmetexplosionfolo.34729ab.html

May 19, 2008 5:10 pm US/Central
McKinney FD Chief Reveals New Details on Explosion

http://cbs11tv.com/local/mckinney.explosion.family.2.727862.html

Related stories:

Monday, June 9, 2008
Family of McKinney gas explosion victim speaks out
http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/jun/09/family-mckinney-gas-explosion-victim-speaks-out/

Monday, July 28, 2008
McKinney gas explosion victim dies

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/mckinney-gas-explosion-victim-dies/

Thursday, October 30, 2008
Blast Victim Dead

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In response to a membership letter from the Sierra Club:

Dear Mr. Nilles, I am responding to your letter concerning switching from coal power to “clean” natural gas. Although I live near Scranton and the PA coal region in general, I am concerned when I hear of natural gas touted as a clean fuel. At this moment, Cabot Oil and Gas are extracting or pumping natural gas from two rigs on either side of my house, both about 500 feet away. The DEP has been investigating Cabot’s work on Carter Rd., Dimock Township PA, because natural gas has migrated into nine or ten water wells on our rural road in Susquehanna County. The process of hydrofracturing underground rock layers has contaminated the water sources for at least 12 homes in Dimock, and next week, they will be filming a documentary. One of our neighbors wells exploded on New Year’s Day, and Mrs. Fiorentino has no water supply. Cabot has refused to provide her with a new well, or to provide her and her relatives with drinking water or even non-potable water for washing. Her water well, according to her son, is 1,001 feet from a gas well, and PA law says they are responsible for water wells less than 1,000 feet away. The explosion had enough force to blow a 10×10 foot concrete slab off of her well.
My next door neighbor has both methane and coliform bacteria in her water, and had to pay for her own $6,000 filtration sistem. Several of my neighbors have flammable water. One of our neighbors has water that still tests as 65%methane after her well has been vented for a month. Kids have been sick, and pets have developed liver damage and had their hair suddenly fall out.  Forests that were part of our rural landscape have not only been cleared, but all their stumps removed, and all their soil taken away, to make drilling pads and pipelines and access roads to gas wells.  We have had three fuel oil spills, one of 800 gallons and two that were 100 gallons, all within view of our home,  all of which were the result of accidents by Cabot employees.  None of us think of natural gas as clean these days.

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So, the natural gas industry wants to increase demand, eh?

Here are a few reasons we need to reduce it: this winter’s rash of natural gas explosions in New England suburbs, and the lives lost:

1. One dead in house explosion
http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=One+dead+in+house+explosion&articleId=b0836fb5-ce5c-4986-aa7b-168dc60b083e

2. Gas leak forces evacuations in Keene
http://www.theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Gas+leak+forces+evacuations+in+Keene&articleId=31ffaf73-a619-4cee-83e5-8afedc73b28f

3. Woman killed in gas explosion in Somerset

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090220/NEWS/902200349

Before explosion, gas crew waved off help; told firefighters they could leave the scene
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/02/21/before_explosion_gas_crew_waved_off_help/

4. More natural gas leaks discovered around Gloucester
http://www.wickedlocal.com/manchester/news/x959451230/More-natural-gas-leaks-discovered-around-Gloucester

Owner miraculously survives explosion – ‘Miracle day’
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1147762

5. 1 Dead In Scituate House Explosion  4 Nearby Homes Condemned After Explosion
http://wbztv.com/local/scituate.house.explosion.2.889634.html

The infrastructure is aging: For years Matt Simmons, the only Peak Oil activist among the oil & gas industry elite, has been warning about, besides peak oil, the aging energy delivery system:

“If the world wants to keep using energy from oil and gas, it will have to rebuild the infrastructure and the cost of doing this could rival the combined cost of the World War II war machine, the post-war Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe, and the post-war buildout of the U.S. interstate highway system.”

Simmons said the costs could be enormous–in the $50- to $100 trillion range. Triage needs to happen immediately to prioritize which links in the system are the weakest and need to be repaired or replaced first. Pipelines are old, some dating to World War II. The average age of the drilling rig fleets onshore and offshore is 24 years. Refineries are even older.

See:
http://blogs.oilandgasinvestor.com/leslie/2008/05/05/matt-simmons-rust-happens/

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Wall Street Journal, 2/24/09
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123552499920765485.html

Natural-Gas Producers Launch Lobbying Group

U.S. natural-gas companies, hurt by a combination of booming supplies and falling demand, are banding together to promote their product with lawmakers and the public.

Such industry heavyweights as Newfield Exploration Co., Devon Energy Corp. and Chesapeake Energy Corp. will announce Wednesday the formation of the American Natural Gas Alliance to push broadly for more use of gas in power generation, transportation and other fields. The group says its more than 20 members account for roughly 40% of all U.S. gas output.

. . . . .

Producers and their investors are increasingly concerned that the market will remain oversupplied even when the economy recovers.

. . . . .

Policy makers have not embraced wide use of natural gas, in part because U.S. production was declining until the recent discoveries.

“In order to promote greater use of natural gas, you’ve got to convince people it’s abundant,” said Newfield Chairman and Chief Executive David Trice, who will serve as chairman of the new coalition.  Mr. Trice said he and other industry executives began talking last year about the need for a louder voice in Washington.

. . . . .

“The natural-gas industry lacks a unified voice,” energy analysts from Wachovia wrote in a recent report. The analysts noted that that the recently approved federal stimulus package included no significant support for the gas industry, and concluded that “the gas industry has utterly failed to address the demand side.”

The new alliance is not the first effort to promote the wider use of natural gas.  In 2007, Chesapeake Energy, the largest U.S. gas producer, helped create the American Clean Skies Foundation. The foundation has teamed up with the Sierra Club, among others, to promote gas as a cleaner alternative to coal.  Mr. Trice said his group will not attack coal or other energy sources, and merely aims to promote gas. The new group has hired trade-group veteran Rodney Lowman as its president. Mr. Lowman, 60 years old, previously ran the Abundant Forests Alliance, an advocacy group for the wood and paper-products industries, and the American Plastics Council.

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Bureau of Oil & Gas Regulation
NYSDEC Division of Mineral Resources
625 Broadway
Albany, NY 12233-6500

Subject: Scope Comment

To Whom It May Concern:

I am writing to submit comments to the Draft Scope for Draft Supplemental Generic Environmental Impact Statement (DSGEIS) on the Oil, Gas and Solution Mining Regulatory Program.

I would like to make it clear that I fully support, as the first option, the alternative suggested by the DEC in the draft scope of work, quoted as follows:

“7.0 ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS
Alternatives to be reviewed by the dSGEIS will include (1) the prohibition of development of Marcellus Shale and other low permeability reservoirs by horizontal drilling and high-volume hydraulic fracturing”

As a second option, I call for an entirely new GEIS to be completed by DEC.  The 1988 Draft and 1992 FGEIS are at least 16 years out of date and no longer relevant.  The new GEIS should include cumulative impacts, and the impacts from gas pipelines and greenhouse gas emissions, which were specifically omitted in the scope of work.

I live in Delaware County, on Sullivan County’s northwest boundary.  My family owns about 230 acres, for a large portion of which Chesapeake solicited a lease last spring.  We are members of the Sullivan Delaware Landowners’ Coalition.  My family has suffered from economic trends of the last decade or more, and we’ve had to learn to live on less and less.  Nonetheless, we believe that the only acceptable option is the one cited above: prohibition of development of Marcellus Shale and other low permeability reservoirs by horizontal drilling and high-volume hydraulic fracturing.  The comments I herewith submit regarding the draft scope will show why.

1. Hydraulic fracturing uses enough pressure to crack rock that in the case of the Marcellus Shale has the weight of thousands of vertical feet of material between it and the surface. While Tom Price, senior vice president of Chesapeake, is quoted as saying that this is a “surgical technique”, it is not.  Regarding a subsurface trespass case before the Supreme Court of Texas, the Fort Worth Business Press reported the following: “The problem is, however, that fracture stimulation isn’t a precise science…in some ways, cracking the shale [predictably] could be thought of as trying to hammer a dinner plate into equal pieces…’You may plan a fracture that will go 1,000 feet and it might go 2,000 feet or 400 feet, ‘ said John S. Lowe, a professor of energy law at Southern Methodist University’s Dedman School of Law.”…’How do you prove any fracing was correct or incorrect in an area that is not precise to begin with?’ asked [John] Holden [a partner at Dallas-based Jackson Walker LLP]…’Either side has to prove what’s going on down below, and that’s hard for both sides.’…Lowe said, ‘You can bring the scientific evidence, the scientific testing to see whether or not a trespass has occurred but I’m not sure you can rely on it 100 percent.’” – Fort Worth Business Press, July 7, 2008.

In light of 16 years of data gathering since ’92, it is worth examining, especially in a fractured bedrock geology, given the unpredictable nature of hydraulic fracturing and the extraordinary pressures used, whether this technology may cause disturbances in other than the target formations or exacerbate existing fractures and faults, thus creating conditions in which substances could start to communicate from one stratum to another.  I would like to know if this could be contributing to the existence of conditions that led to the following headline:  “Western PA landowners regret deep gas wells deals, gases bubbling out of the ground and into drinking wells and ponds.” http://www.riverreporter.com/issues/08-04-10/head1-drilling.html

So-called research cited on DEC’s website (http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/47291.html) as evidence that hydraulic fracturing is safe is from a source that can only be described as suspect, the Ground Water Protection Council, which is nothing more than an industry front group which seeks to maintain the current legal and permissive status of underground injection waste disposal, and to that purpose is designed to alter the dynamics of the regulator-regulated relationship.  This group lobbies and co-opts regulating bodies through a clever method which creates a peer-to-peer atmosphere in discussions about regulation, effectively castrating regulators’ power to regulate for the safety and well-being of the environment and all life dependent on it.  It is a matter of great concern to many informed citizens that regulating agencies across the US, including DEC, have allowed themselves to be so thoroughly infiltrated and domesticated by an industry group that has no higher objective than to keep its toxic and dangerous industrial processes legal in the face of a growing body of evidence that they should be prohibited.

2.  The 1992 GEIS discussed injection wells for disposal of removed fluids, and deep well injection is now being considered for disposal of frack waste water.  Again, since 1992 we have 16 years of addtional data to consider.   Pennsylvania DEP acting secretary John Hanger has said that in PA, deep well injection disposal has not been favored because of Pennsylvania’s geology – geology which does not change at the state line.  The draft scope, or preferably a new comprehensive GEIS, must consider what they know in PA that we don’t know here.

Deep well injection is implicated in a series of earthquakes that struck the city of Lake Erie, Ohio. (http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/mar02/NN_quakes.html)  According to http://www.pollutionissues.com/Ho-Li/Injection-Well.html it is also implicated in numerous cases of water supply contamination.

There is an unwritten law more powerful than any passed by any legislative body anywhere: the law of  unintended consequences.  DEC must consider this reality: we do not know everything there is to know.  Try now, pay later is no more successful a strategy than buy now, pay later.

On page 13 of the draft scope, a sentence begins “Examination of each of the above disposal options along with others that may be suggested during scoping.”  The available evidence suggests to the uncompromised observer that there is NO acceptable disposal method at this time, and that high-volume hydraulic fracturing should be halted until there is.

3.  Spills of hazardous materials:  Page 11 of the draft scope begins with a paragraph that includes such phrases as:  “To date no spill or discharge of chemical fracturing fluid additives in their pure, undiluted liquid or solid form has ever been reported to the Department, nor has the Department documented any environmental degradation that could be attributable to such an event.”   In other places in the draft scope, (e.g. p. 20)  statements are made that adverse effects such as spills and excessive or dangerous atmospheric emissions could only happen in the case of accidents or permit violations – as if such events are impossible or unheard of.  This is a grave deficiency of the draft scope. Accidents are inevitable and New Yorkers are not so naive as to believe that permit violations never happen.  These dubious reassurances do nothing to remediate once the inevitable accident has occurred.

There is so much wrong with these collections of doublespeak that it’s difficult to know where to begin, but an attempt to itemize follows:
a)  Such statements attempt to obscure the reality that in industrial activity, accidents will happen.   They have happened.  If DEC has not documented them, that is cause for additional concern, not reassurance.
b) The fact that the inevitable spill has not been reported to the Department means nothing good, and only corroborates observations of the dishonest nature of the drilling industry.
c) The fact, if it is a fact, that the Department has not documented any environmental harms attributable to such spills means nothing, given, i. the Department’s gross understaffing issues, ii. the Department’s lack of applied intellectual rigor and regulatory zeal (as evidenced when DEC took the word of the Interstate Oil & Gas Compact Commission and incorporated the result of an informal poll of its members’ anecdotal recall in a PowerPoint presentation to municipal officials earlier this year, stating, “in over one million frack jobs, not one instance of groundwater contamination,”  when in fact, there are thousands of instances of groundwater contamination from frack jobs across the country).
d) The Department has never before regulated drilling activity at anywhere near the proposed magnitude and intensity, so even if there had never been even one spill of hazardous materials in all the decades of regulation of gas drilling to date, it is unreasonable and inapplicable to conclude or indicate that there is no reason for concern now.  Accidents are inevitable.  Increased activity mathematically computes to increased risk.

For the same reason, the assertion on page 10 that the Department has no record of any documented instance of groundwater contamination” is in no way reassuring – not only is there a lack of intellectual rigor, the will is missing too.  Numerous documented instances of groundwater exist in New York State, particularly in the western part of the state where drilling has been intensive for decades – though not even at the projected scale!  To say DEC has no record simply means DEC has not been doing its job.  Again, this lack of will, and the deliberate attempt to disarm concern by converting DEC’s wilfull neglect to document into a lack of evidence is a cause for only greater concern.

A little further down the page, one of the bulleted points reads: “information about fracturing fluid additives collected from service companies and chemical suppliers.”  This source list is inadequate.  Information from industry is only a start; this notoriously secretive and duplicitous industry should never be the exclusive source of such critical information. The phrase “independent researchers” should be added.  Dr Theo Colborn is a respected and authoritative source on the subject of fracking chemicals and no compilation of data on fracking chemicals could possibly be complete without including her work.  Two weeks ago I attended a presentation by the Independent Oil and Gas Association, where we were shown a slide that listed 4 main fracking chemical recipes.  The presenters were careful to point out the extreme dilutions of anywhere from 1/4 gallon to 5 gallons of chemical per million gallons of water.  One chemical, a biocide, is used at 1/4 gallon per million gallons. Yet during the Q&A, the presenter reviewed that slide and said, “Well, there’s nothing here that’s really toxic.”   This is not an isolated incident; active citizens have caught gas drilling industry representatives in deliberate lies over and over, and are documenting them.  DEC must not accept as a credible and self-verifying source the reporting of an industry whose representatives are so deliberately misleading.

Section 2.1.2.3 on confidential commercial status of additive formulas or constituents makes the statement that regardless of federal reporting exemptions, the Department is not prevented “from requiring that the information be submitted for review by DEC.”  “Not prevented from requiring” is far different than “will require.”  The draft scope should include information on how DEC will collect this information, from whom (including independent researchers, as mentioned above) and how DEC will verify and regularly update this information.

4.  Well spacing:  Potential of 16 wells per square mile is in and of itself a very significant and in fact unacceptable environmental impact.  The draft scope is at pains to repeat that noise and air quality issues are mostly temporary.  This may be true for each individual well, but the cumulative impact of having one well developed after another means that the noise and air quality issues continue, well after well, after well.  On page 9 of the draft scope, we find 2 curious statements.  One is that Chautauqua County has previously experienced 40-acre well spacing, that is, 16 wells per square mile.  However, this is not the reassurance that was intended.  An 81-year-old lady who lived in and traveled through Chautauqua County during that intensive phase says of it, “it STUNK” and noted that the water was undrinkable and tasted like gas.  The second curious statement is “the Department does not expect the rate of Marcellus drilling in any single county to match the peak Chautauqua County rate” – but fails to supply a justification for that perception.  DEC should be doing full buildout models for what it does anticipate, with  full cumulative impacts – not just individual site and localized impacts – detailed.

5.  Air quality and effects on human health:  Section 4.1.3 omits any mention of VOCs and ozone; again, it is essential to refer to Theo Colborn’s work on air quality on gas well sites. A new GEIS or else a revised draft scope must include consideration of findings from new research on the effects of VOCs and ozone on human and animal health as well as on crop yields.  New studies such as the very recently released, “Potential Exposure-Related Human Health Effects of Oil and Gas Development:  A Literature Review (2003-2008),” and the literature upon which it is based, must be examined thoroughly and the results reported and factored in fully and candidly.  Again, given the vast amount of data newly available in recent years, we need a new and comprehensive GEIS, not a patch that relies on foregone conclusions in a 16-year-old document based on now-outdated research.

Additionally, a phrase in section 4.1.3 reads that “concerns regarding evaporation of pit contents do not arise in New York because precipitation exceeds evaporation.”  This statement is an insult to the intelligence, and once again, it is difficult to know where to begin:
a) New York State is by no means unique in this regard; in fact, just the opposite is true:  There are probably very few places in the world in which precipitation does not exceed evaporation.  b) Of course precipitation exceeds evaporation; it is for this reason that we have surface water and ground water in abundance.
c) Any observer, even a child, understands that evaporation nonetheless happens in New York State.  Slightly more sophisticated observers understand that if water evaporates from the laundry drying (even on cloudy, misty days) on the backyard clothesline, then VOCs in drilling and fracking wastes will evaporate into the air we breathe all the more readily in almost any weather.
To imply that in this atmospheric condition,  evaporation of pit contents is of no consequence is a patent absurdity that is shocking and unsettling to see in a document prepared by the department that purports to regulate for environmental safety.

6.  Sensitive areas and water bodies: The specified setbacks mentioned in section 4.2.3 (page 28) and 4.5 (page 32) are inadequate and can only be seen as a gift to industry.  A new GEIS should study whether these setbacks are adequate, although common sense leaves no doubt that they are not.  This reader finds in the draft scope no mention of restrictions on sensitive or unsuitable topography.  Here in Delaware County, Chesapeake sought to lease our nearly 200 acres despite the fact that it’s all almost vertical.  We still have scarring from the 1996 flood.  On nearby properties, from one summer’s small -scale logging 4 years ago, there are erosion issues from soil compaction:  ditches where once were paths, streambeds that formerly were woods roads.  Here, the valleys are narrow, slopes are very steep, and soil is fragile and unstable.   The draft scope makes no mention of the potentially catastrophic effects of allowing a drilling operation to take place on sensitive topography and unstable soils.

Section 4.5 admits that drilling in wetlands is enough of a concern that it will be permitted “only when alternate locations are not available.”  In fact, if drilling in a wetland is of sufficient concern to warrant that precaution, then it should never be permitted, even when an alternate location is not available.

7. Setbacks for drinking water sources: Section 4.2.3.1, as well as numerous other locations in this document, mentions special considerations for municipal water sources.  I want the same consideration for my spring.  My springs are every bit as important to the health of my land and to my quality of life as municipal water sources are to those served by them.  If proximity to municipal water supply is “always significant” then proximity to private water supplies must also be considered “always significant.”

8. Noise impacts: Section 4.1.1 on noise impacts says that moderate to significant noise impacts may be experienced within 1000 feet of a well site.”  Anecdotal evidence suggests that number is an underestimate and that 1/2 mile is more accurate.  And the duration is understated as well, since with 40 acre spacing one location could conceivably be subjected to drilling noise for over a year.   Section 2.1.3 discusses well testing, including flaring.  It is supremely ironic that this corporate, large-scale activity is permitted – but DEC wants to ban individual citizens’ use of burn barrels.

9. Impacts from large well pads: Section 2.1.4 discusses the possibility of environmental impacts from larger well pads; the draft scope fails to mention any regulation of herbicide use; I am given to understand that “DEC exercises no control over the constant use of herbicides on 5 acre drilling sites.”

10. Impacts on communities:  Section 4.8 (pg 35) describes community impacts as temporary.  Again, with industrial scale operation, community effects are NOT temporary; intensive activity may move from one well pad to another, but is of sustained duration in the community.

For all the above reasons and more, the draft scope is inadequate.  It fails to address the issues the issues listed above and others, either adequately or at all ; for what it does superficially address it fails to meet the standard of a draft scope in that it does not state areas of interest in detail nor how and by whom each area of examination will be undertaken.

The draft scope reveals the Department’s bias in favor of natural gas extraction in many places, including mentions of the clean-burning quality of natural gas and the perceived need for additional energy sources.  This bias is unfortunate, short-sighted, and inappropriate.  Regarding the oft-repeated perceived need for further exploitation of energy resources:  Just as someone who has maxed out 10 credit cards doesn’t need another credit card, we don’t need more energy at any cost to our quality of life.  Even fossil-fuels industries admit that dependence on a finite resource is a dead-end course of action.  Instead, we need to learn to live within our energy means.  Much of the reason we have so much trouble with that is due to the close relationship between government and the energy industry, (sadly, a relationship much in evidence as we watch DEC’s interactions with the energy industry).  For the years 2002-2006 Chesapeake Energy had an average tax rate of 3/10ths of a percent.  If those taxes had been collected and put into real energy independence options, we would have some viable options each day for living within our energy means.  Other countries are much further ahead in this than we are.  If we were to emulate them, we would have solar panels along major highway rights-of-way,  as along Germany’s Autobahn.  We’d have small wind turbines on our buildings and would able to ride light rail for much of our personal transportation needs.  It’s the oil and gas and auto industries who decades ago persuaded our government to use our tax dollars to increase their control and profits, and decrease our choices; it was their lobbying that destroyed the early mass transit that was the common mode of transportation until the early years of the last century.

As the regulating body for the extractives industry, DEC must not accept the false choice that it should make concessions to industry, to sacrifice even a little bit of what environment still remains, let alone as much as this exploitation in actuality will cost us, for a few years’ worth of yet another highly polluting hydrocarbon energy source.  (Pollution is pollution, regardless of whether it happens at the extraction end or the consumption end of the process.)

Finally, perhaps outside the scope of this comment but nonetheless relevant:  many New Yorkers are not confident of the effectiveness of this comment process as a democratic exercise.  Citizens have come to expect contempt and disregard from all levels of government, including the Department of Environmental Conservation.   Nonetheless, we have invested ourselves in the process because we have a business relationship with DEC – we pay you to look after our interests.  Many of us have concluded that DEC cannot effectively do that because of the dual but conflicting responsibilities which which it has been charged:  stewardship of the enviroment and maximizing resource “recovery.”   Likely in part because of the compromising nature of that dual mission, many of us have come to feel we are not getting our money’s worth, and that if we were, the scope and scale of this proposed industrial activity would have been dismissed by DEC from the outset, instead of being promoted by it.

Many citizens have noticed that DEC is quick to pounce on private individuals doing inconsequential things that have no negative environmental consequences and in fact may be of environmental benefit. DEC has much to do to regain our trust as an enforcer of equal zeal when it comes to the activities of large corporations and the energy industry.

Sincerely,
(name removed for public posting)

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The people of New York State have spoken:

http://www.newburghadvocate.com/2008/12/05/i-give-the-government-an-f-minus/

Gas drilling: I give the government an F minus

Judge Helene G. Goldberger

Judge Helene G. Goldberger (above) presided over the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation’s Gas Well Drilling in the Marcellus Shale Public Hearing Thursday evening, December 4.  Elected officials, representatives from gas companies and gas industry groups, and members of the public gave their comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement.  The crowd filled the bleachers of Sullivan County Community College’s Fieldhouse basketball court.  The vast majority of speakers were opposed to the drilling for a range of concerns, from drinking water to environmental degredation to health concerns.  Regarding the lack of oversight, one woman stated that “I give the government an F minus.”

Below are illustrations and excerpts from the comments of each person who spoke.

Environmental Justice

The ecosystem is our economy... The prospect... is extremely threatening... carcinogenic... radioactive... The DEC doesn't have enough staff.

“The ecosystem is our economy… The prospect… is extremely threatening… carcinogenic… radioactive… The DEC doesn’t have enough staff.”

We have an obligation to all our residents... Road damage and use... they have circumvented this process.

“We have an obligation to all our residents… Road damage and use… they have circumvented this process.”

Global issues... not local issues... More hearings are needed... no NYC hearing... 10 times more toxic than offshore oil... A contamination emergency... the same thing will happen in New York... No permits should be issued by the department.  We cannot sacrifice water for gas.  Our streams will be ruined.

“Global issues… not local issues… More hearings are needed… no NYC hearing… 10 times more toxic than offshore oil… A contamination emergency… the same thing will happen in New York… No permits should be issued by the department.  We cannot sacrifice water for gas.  Our streams will be ruined.”

Scare tactics... Some of these people oppose any type of energy development... Energy independence is a national security issue.

“Scare tactics… Some of these people oppose any type of energy development… Energy independence is a national security issue.”

We've seen the devastation drilling has caused... We've heard the DEC parrot the same claim... Damaging information was redacted from the report... by Dick Cheney's office... It excludes the impact of construction of 100s of miles of pipelines.  The DEC does not have the proper resources.

“We’ve seen the devastation drilling has caused… We’ve heard the DEC parrot the same claim… Damaging information was redacted from the report… by Dick Cheney’s office… It excludes the impact of construction of 100s of miles of pipelines.  The DEC does not have the proper resources.”

My husband has seen accidents on sites... how fast will spills be cleaned up? ...will every spill be reported?  The workers defecated on the side of the road.

“My husband has seen accidents on sites… how fast will spills be cleaned up? …will every spill be reported?  The workers defecated on the side of the road.”

The Town of Highland was the first to enact a moratorium.   We need... home rule... we know the area and you don't.

“The Town of Highland was the first to enact a moratorium.   We need… home rule… we know the area and you don’t.”

What is the cost-benefit of doing this?  There's no mention of any risk analysis... hazardous chemicals... There should be a delay and moratorium.

“What is the cost-benefit of doing this?  There’s no mention of any risk analysis… hazardous chemicals… There should be a delay and moratorium.”

It brings significant wealth to the wealthy... community character... I beg to differ.  There have been profound short and long-term consequences [on] community life... increased crime - 30% increase in crime... Like living in a war zone...

I give the government an F minus

“It brings significant wealth to the wealthy… community character… I beg to differ.  There have been profound short and long-term consequences [on] community life… increased crime – 30% increase in crime… Like living in a war zone…  I give the government an F minus”

Tapping this low cost and efficient fuel... It wouldn't be like a gold rush... Natural gas... demand is projected to increase... of the frack fluid... Land owners can expect to receive royalties in excess of $100 million.

“Tapping this low cost and efficient fuel… It wouldn’t be like a gold rush… Natural gas… demand is projected to increase… of the frack fluid… Land owners can expect to receive royalties in excess of $100 million.”

The lies the gas industry promotes to hide the truth... waterunderattack.com... What I witnessed was absolutely devastating health effects... Kim Webber... her land was contaminated... she suffers from brain lesions... Rick... his blood tested positive for [toxic compounds]... Theo... I'm worried about brain damage

“The lies the gas industry promotes to hide the truth… waterunderattack.com… What I witnessed was absolutely devastating health effects… Kim Webber… her land was contaminated… she suffers from brain lesions… Rick… his blood tested positive for [toxic compounds]… Theo… I’m worried about brain damage”

We need to get this right in New York State... This needs to be treated as a programmatic DEIS... How much methane and natural gas will be leaking?  Hundreds of trucks... millions of gallons of water... traffic impacts are not going to be looked at... We need to have a Zero Risk Policy when it comes to our drinking water supplies.

“We need to get this right in New York State… This needs to be treated as a programmatic DEIS… How much methane and natural gas will be leaking?  Hundreds of trucks… millions of gallons of water… traffic impacts are not going to be looked at… We need to have a Zero Risk Policy when it comes to our drinking water supplies.”

How can we be sure the gas company will have the incentive to talk to the town?  The gain... cannot be borne on the backs of others.

“How can we be sure the gas company will have the incentive to talk to the town?  The gain… cannot be borne on the backs of others.”

Environmental Justice... seems to be missing... There's no avenues of redress... NY State leads in diesel deaths... Enforcement and monitoring... DEC... isn't hiring... People have a right to know.

“Environmental Justice… seems to be missing… There’s no avenues of redress… NY State leads in diesel deaths… Enforcement and monitoring… DEC… isn’t hiring… People have a right to know.”

I'm from NYC... Our 8 million stakeholders have been excluded from this hearing... BRING these hearings down to NYC... Water is the real staff of life... There are 275 chemicals to be used... I'm sure these are not milk and honey substances... The economy is a subsystem of the environment... Consider the replacement cost of the environment.

“I’m from NYC… Our 8 million stakeholders have been excluded from this hearing… BRING these hearings down to NYC… Water is the real staff of life… There are 275 chemicals to be used… I’m sure these are not milk and honey substances… The economy is a subsystem of the environment… Consider the replacement cost of the environment.”

I ask DEC to consider all the costs... The degradation of the community, the water... An aquifer cannot be restored... What is the cost of a child's future?  More hearings are necessary... Damascuscitizens.org.

“I ask DEC to consider all the costs… The degradation of the community, the water… An aquifer cannot be restored… What is the cost of a child’s future?  More hearings are necessary… Damascuscitizens.org.”

The DEIS should include... an evaluation of the chemicals... We need to understand the scale of this project... Approval of one well at a time... as many as 25,000 wells... 50,000 wells.  It will be an industrial zone... 250 billion gallons of water... 1 gallon of toxic chemicals can contaminate a million gallons of water... The industry has a master plan and it should be made public... The only reason to drill is for money.

“The DEIS should include… an evaluation of the chemicals… We need to understand the scale of this project… Approval of one well at a time… as many as 25,000 wells… 50,000 wells.  It will be an industrial zone… 250 billion gallons of water… 1 gallon of toxic chemicals can contaminate a million gallons of water… The industry has a master plan and it should be made public… The only reason to drill is for money.”

The best EIS is nothing more than a feel good piece of paper... RISK to drinking water... NO RISK IS PERMISSABLE... The threat to drinking water is indisputable.

“The best EIS is nothing more than a feel good piece of paper… RISK to drinking water… NO RISK IS PERMISSABLE… The threat to drinking water is indisputable.”

50% well casings fail... The FDA strictly limits the amount of benzene...

“50% well casings fail… The FDA strictly limits the amount of benzene…”

Get a good environmental attorney, and SUE - starting with the DEC... Human Health - the county has to be strong... I'm very afraid of NYC... The only way you're going to stop this company is to sue it... Are these companies going to be required to pay county sales tax?

“Get a good environmental attorney, and SUE – starting with the DEC… Human Health – the county has to be strong… I’m very afraid of NYC… The only way you’re going to stop this company is to sue it… Are these companies going to be required to pay county sales tax?”

There is a compelling need for transparency in this process... I'm compelled to raise the issue of aesthetics.

“There is a compelling need for transparency in this process… I’m compelled to raise the issue of aesthetics.”

Conflicts of interest... There is no known way of restoring the purity of this contaminated water... Which politicians... have received campaign contributions from the gas companies?

“Conflicts of interest… There is no known way of restoring the purity of this contaminated water… Which politicians… have received campaign contributions from the gas companies?”

The quality of life in Bethel and Sullivan County... It is an invasive and potentially dangerous proposition... No site plan review before my town's planning board...

“The quality of life in Bethel and Sullivan County… It is an invasive and potentially dangerous proposition… No site plan review before my town’s planning board…”

Accountability of the fracking fluid... There are many areas available for dumping if no one's looking... I still believe this important information should be recorded.

“Accountability of the fracking fluid… There are many areas available for dumping if no one’s looking… I still believe this important information should be recorded.”

Who will be held accountable when our water is compromised?  Asthma... brain lesions... If gas companies have lied elsewhere, why not here in N.Y.?  Water is our most precious resource... Are we so arrogant that... we turn a blind eye?  There should be no drilling allowed.

“Who will be held accountable when our water is compromised?  Asthma… brain lesions… If gas companies have lied elsewhere, why not here in N.Y.?  Water is our most precious resource… Are we so arrogant that… we turn a blind eye?  There should be no drilling allowed.”

They're doing it because there's nobody there to stop them... How are you going to enforce this?  When a flood comes, I've found picnic benches... tires for trucks... and a six foot Minnie Mouse... It's going to get downstream.

“They’re doing it because there’s nobody there to stop them… How are you going to enforce this?  When a flood comes, I’ve found picnic benches… tires for trucks… and a six foot Minnie Mouse… It’s going to get downstream.”

Floods are not accidents... Noxious and harmful ozone... 900 spills... 20% of those got into... ground water... Oil and Gas Accountability website.

“Floods are not accidents… Noxious and harmful ozone… 900 spills… 20% of those got into… ground water… Oil and Gas Accountability website.”

Conservation easements... threats to water, open space, and general life... We encourage you to re-evaluate how towns and boards [can be involved].

“Conservation easements… threats to water, open space, and general life… We encourage you to re-evaluate how towns and boards [can be involved].”

The gas companies use any tactic to get drilling rights... I understand there are 19 [DEC agents] in the entire state.

“The gas companies use any tactic to get drilling rights… I understand there are 19 [DEC agents] in the entire state.”

The watershed provides drinking water to over 17 million people... It is not, and should never become, an industrial zone... Why won't the gas industry disclose?

“The watershed provides drinking water to over 17 million people… It is not, and should never become, an industrial zone… Why won’t the gas industry disclose?”

Catskill Mountainkeeper... The impacts need to include... pipelines... even if [someone else] has regulatory authority... Waste water treatment and disposal... the sludge that could build up over time.

“Catskill Mountainkeeper… The impacts need to include… pipelines… even if [someone else] has regulatory authority… Waste water treatment and disposal… the sludge that could build up over time.”

When the mines closed down... We should really try to analyze what long-term impacts there are for the future... 150 years... It may take 50-150 years... for problems to surface... Let's not make any more time bombs for our children.

“When the mines closed down… We should really try to analyze what long-term impacts there are for the future… 150 years… It may take 50-150 years… for problems to surface… Let’s not make any more time bombs for our children.”

The need for additional planning... DEC is insufficiently staffed... How the industry interacts with communities... There is a severe disconnect between the [corporate responsibility statements] and how these companies behave... In NO CERTAIN TERMS should political pressure be applied to an agency.

“The need for additional planning… DEC is insufficiently staffed… How the industry interacts with communities… There is a severe disconnect between the [corporate responsibility statements] and how these companies behave… In NO CERTAIN TERMS should political pressure be applied to an agency.”

We have the cleanest water in the entire state... As a community, we should be ashamed.

“We have the cleanest water in the entire state… As a community, we should be ashamed.”

CC recommends... all steps should be taken... [Water should be returned to the source watershed]... Steel tanks should be required... The public has a right to know what is being used in its soil... Public Water Protection Fund.

“CC recommends… all steps should be taken… [Water should be returned to the source watershed]… Steel tanks should be required… The public has a right to know what is being used in its soil… Public Water Protection Fund.”

There's absolutely no reason to do the drilling [when] they use poison... If this does happen, there will be catastrophic accidents... Look into the integrity of the people who are doing the drilling.

“There’s absolutely no reason to do the drilling [when] they use poison… If this does happen, there will be catastrophic accidents… Look into the integrity of the people who are doing the drilling.”

I have a fair aount of experience at these hearings... We believe [Sullivan County] wells will not produce gas... I don't believe you're going to see... thousands... of wells... I would ask the DEC... to limit the drilling to a few wells.

“I have a fair aount of experience at these hearings… We believe [Sullivan County] wells will not produce gas… I don’t believe you’re going to see… thousands… of wells… I would ask the DEC… to limit the drilling to a few wells.”

Schlumberger...

“Schlumberger…”

Use of water... untold millions of gallons of water... What sort of Emergency Response Team?  The cumulative effect on fisheries... One well can use 9 million gallons of water... Massive ground water pollution... wrecked infrastructure.

“Use of water… untold millions of gallons of water… What sort of Emergency Response Team?  The cumulative effect on fisheries… One well can use 9 million gallons of water… Massive ground water pollution… wrecked infrastructure.”

The only acceptable [route] is prohibition... We keep being told that this can't happen and it keeps happening... Many scientists are concerned that [these wells] may contaminate ground water... There is no acceptable disposal method... Abject lies.

“The only acceptable [route] is prohibition… We keep being told that this can’t happen and it keeps happening… Many scientists are concerned that [these wells] may contaminate ground water… There is no acceptable disposal method… Abject lies.”

The purpose of the GWPC... comprehensive groundwater protection... This practice is considered safe... I put biocides in my swimming pool.

“The purpose of the GWPC… comprehensive groundwater protection… This practice is considered safe… I put biocides in my swimming pool.”


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